Why The Sonic Fanbase Is Ungrateful

Welp, YET ANOTHER controversy within the deep dark depths of the worst fanbase in history

So about a year ago, you might remember i got flamed just for hating some 6 year old whiny toddler a-hole nobody even likes, but no, the cream stans had to go screaming their asses off like nerds (for real, frick sonic news network, they are WORSE than sonic retro, and THAT is saying something, even reddit is better than this steaming pile of trash)

Here is the link below, so you yourself can see how the sonic fanbase is full of complete whiny asses in REAL TIME!

https://sonic.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000106330/r/4400000000000272189

Also, the "giant leaf boss thingy" quote STILL makes me laugh to this day

Then there was the second storm, which involved my gripe with the fanbase and their WAY TOO EXTREME opinions on sonic 4, i even got told i should be ashamed of myself for liking it and recieved death threats, this almost made me QUIT THE FRANCHISE as a whole, well done idiots

We have 2 things to talk about, controversial stuff going on about 2 games, Sonic Unleashed and the new 4K remaster of Sonic Colours, Sonic Colours Ultimate

So, you might realize what the heck has been going on recently, the ENTIRE fanbase has been sucking on unleashed 360s burnt out toes, they go as far as to defend the thing that made me have a literal emotional breakdown and say that its easy, and that "i just suck at it" here is 2 examples, the time i got banned as ShahraAndTheSecretScringrings (which was also the time where T2Ts ban got extended to FOREVER BEING BANNED ACROSS THE FANDOM NETWORK) and the time i got told to kill myself by an angry 7 year old attack on titan fan

After that, i will be talking about the time i got told i "white knight" for everything sonic related by a bunch of sonic retro purists who only hate on colours ultimate just so they can hate on more things "MeTa ErA" related, what kind of name even is that? if anything it should be called the dark age (2013 onwards at least, because shocker, there WERE good games after generations

So, some idiotic bigot who FORCES his dumbass opinions on the overrated trash that is Sonic Unleashed and tries to call me a noob and that "i suck at it" he even says that EPG, who has LOTS of valid reasons as to why he doesnt like this dumpster fire, he continues to call him a noob even though he was playing the HARDEST MISSION IN THE GAME

Me (Talking about which sonic games i should get for christmas):Reasons why

Unleashed Wii:looks a million times better than the awful one on the 360

Lost World 3DS:once again, dimps does better than sega

Sonic Colours Ultimate Epic Games:id love to experience one of my most nostalgic sonic games in high res!

Sonic Free Riders:not sure about this one, graphics look amazing, gameplay looks fun even if its a bit ridiculous, but the entire game is a literal exercise disguised as a sonic game

12323426900G:What's so awful about the 360 version of Sonic Unleashed?

So this clueless, somewhat innocent person asks me why i dont like the Xbox 360 version

I give him the truth of course

Me:The day stages being awful and trial and error, the jump button being unresponsive, the homing attack being mapped to the x button, the quickstep being delayed, and the constant and outright unfair placement of spikes that makes it similar to sonic 3 and knuckles, the level design is just unforgiving, and the werehog stages were atrocious, the levels have tedious beat em up parts where even though you try as hard as you can, they end up all killing you, again and again, lets not forget about the awful werehog minibosses and bosses, where they are extremely OP and spam their attacks at you, there is also constant unfair platforming like the day stages where you constantly die, i struggled and slugged with this game for a whole year but after constant frustration, i ragequit the game with a red face and tears in my eyes, i was that ticked off with unleashed, it was a plain horrible experience and took 1 year off my life, wasted, i cant believe i poured hours into unleashed 360, but one thing for sure, im never touching it again

We then get to see the moron side of him who says "i just suck at it" and that the werehog stages are "not hard" NOT HARD? the werehog levels made me never want to see ANYTHING sonic unleashed related EVER AGAIN, at least not for a VERY VERY long time, i was literally red faced, crying trying to beat this piece of junk, but he defends it saying that hes NEVER had ANY of these problems, so the delayed controls that everyone has NEVER HAPPENED?

So basically, my 1 YEAR OF MY LIFE WASTED was just me sucking at the game, yeah fricking right!

Knight of the Storm:Hey be respectful, saying someone sucks is just plain rude

So this guy sticks up to me once, and bails on me, because when i needed his help the most, i got banned by good old goffard the tyrant, FOREVER, i will keep making alts, and there is nothing sonic retro network can do about it, not even Luma Dash, the head honcho of ALL the tyrant admins

12323426900G:Okay, i didn't mean anything by it. I'm just saying maybe he should practice more. I don't have any problems with it, and i don't know what "bosses are unfair" means. You aren't supposed to attack them head on, they're gimmicky.

I literally played the game for a year and only got to the 7th zone, i shouldve completed the game by month 3, not MONTH 12! so saying i should practice more is dumb, and the bosses being "gimmicky", BOSSES ARENT SUPPOSED TO BE GIMMICKY, the complete wack running boss template they have reused and milked to death for over 10 years is getting VERY old and it was at its worst in unleashed, the running bosses were literally NEVER good, so why does sega keep using them? and the werehog bosses, these bosses are absolutely terrible, the bosses have these CONSTANT attacks they just spam at you and make your healthbar go down in 1 SINGLE MINUTE, honestly, sonic unleashed was always obnoxious

Me:lmao, ok mr unleashed is a perfect game and is the easiest sonic game

12323426900G:Read my comments again. Where did i say it was perfect, or the easiest? All I'm saying is, i don't have any kind of problem with it's difficulty. It's not unfair, you just need to stop blaming the game, and try to get better. Just like any other game. And the bosses aren't difficult if you know how to fight them.

"Its not unfair, you just need to stop blaming the game" 🤣🤣

12323426900G:The 360 version does look better. Literally the graphics on the Wii version look extremely inferior. As far as graphics, the 360 version looks best. Plus the Wii version looks like the levels mostly just involve a straight line. At least, the one in the video does.

Extremely inferior my ass, ITS ON THE WII, OF COURSE ITS GOING TO LOOK WORSE, its not all about graphics, and the whole "wii version sucks because graphics and it reminds me of forces" is the dumbest thing ive heard in a while, it is MUCH MORE open than forces, maybe you should actually PAY ATTENTION to the multiple routes instead of just mindlessly spamming boost all the time

Me:i said gameplay-wise, stop trying to get me to like the HD version, it was almost on levels of traumatic for me, thats how garbage it is, most sonic games dont SOUR over time because of how tedious and bad the level design is, so both of you, stop blaming me for "sucking at the game" when the level design punishes me when i just try to play it, what kind of sonic game punishes you every 5 seconds? i was SO STRESSED I WAS FRICKING RED FACED AND CRYING, unleashed 360 is a complete disaster compared to the wii version, and ign was right, thats right, i said it, the ign unleashed review is pretty darn accurate to my gameplay experience

Heres a heads up, i meant what hilary goldstein SAID about the game, i do know how to play sonic unlike hilary

12323426900G:It doesn't punish you. You just have to react to traps faster, and learn the levels better. I've literally never heard anyone complain about any of these things.

"React to traps faster" reacting to traps is like the equivalent of reacting to a speeding bullet, its IMPOSSIBLE, literally impossible to do so

Also, how has NO ONE complained about it, yeah the sonic retro purists might have not, but ACTUAL FANS of the series who actually want sonic to be a good and well respected series will of course complain about it, the day stages are a complete trainwreck and is just a complete identity crisis throughout, it wants to be a mario collectathon AND sonic rush AND a world adventure game, WHAT DOES IT WANT TO BE? because i dont fricking know

Me:"react to traps faster", youre just excusing the godawful day stage level design, you can like the game but you cant deny its flaws, and the whole "ive literally never heard ANYONE complain" thing is just plain dumb and idiotic, how can you not know? MANY people back in 2008 complained about these things, and they were right to, now everyone is ignoring those flaws like they were never present, and now unleashed 360 has became the 2nd most overrated game in the series, behind black knight of course

Imagine twisting the flaws of the game to fit your narrative!

12323426900G:Back in 2008, i was 4 years old and didn't have Wi-Fi. I'm not excusing anything, you just aren't very good at the game. You're the one getting mad at the game for being too hard. You don't even try to enjoy it, you're just getting angry for no reason. The level design is fine. The Wii version is just plain lazy. I really haven't heard anyone complain about the game's difficulty. The werehog stages, yes. But never the day stages. And I've never heard anyone say it's unfair, or too difficult.

(Yes, he actually is about to shove in a "black knight is good" even though it has NOTHING TO DO with the conversation)

Also, i actually like Black Knight.

And HOW THE HELL is the wii version lazy? for having good level design that doesnt punish you for expecting to play a sonic game? the wii version LITERALLY HAS MORE CONTENT, BETTER HUB WORLDS, GAIA GATES, MISSIONS, AND LEVEL DESIGN THAT ACTUALLY PLAYS LIKE A SONIC GAME! also, i TRIED to enjoy this clusterfrick, but no, it just HAS to have a dumbass werehog gameplay style, no wonder why sega doesnt do multiple playable characters anymore, because the werehog exists! thats why people wanted ONLY sonic for sonic 4, also, literally EVERYONE WHO PLAYS THE GAME, complains about the difficulty, but no, i just suck lmaooooooooo, honestly, this guy has no braincells whatsoever, also, the level design is fine? yeah i sure love RUNNING INTO SPIKES, before HITTING A WALL and then BOOSTING off the map time and time again, that sounds like fine level design, best sonic game ever am i right?

Heres what i had to say

Me:i did try to enjoy it, i try to enjoy every sonic game, i was enjoying it at first, even with the werehog levels, until cool edge where the day stage was throwing all the complete bull poop at me and the night stage with the awful ice physics and terrible dropping ice sections and the level lasting 16 MINUTES!, so dont go saying "im not very good at the game" because i tried to play it like generations, what it was supposed to be, a high thrills boost game, so just shut up ok? and you saying that the wii version is lazy is dumb, if anything, the wii version is more open and has more alternate paths, the werehog acts last just 4 to 10 minutes per act, and are much more well designed, also, im not talking about black knight, so the whole "BlAck KnIgHt Is WaY BeTtEr ThAn SeCrEt rInGs" thing isnt needed, im not commenting on this post anymore, thats how much youve annoyed me, how can you say youve had NO PROBLEMS playing the hardest game in the series!

12323426900G:Okay. You could have just said so. Look, I'm not trying to bring Black Knight into the conversation. It so happens that Cool Edge is my favorite stage in the game. But you didn't even mention Cool Edge in any of your previous comments. All you said was the spikes, traps and bosses are unfair. I haven't played the Wii version, and i tried to play the PS2 version when i was little, but the game kept freezing after the first stage. I just used the video the other guy provided as reference. And I'll have you know that you annoyed me too.

WHO ADDS "ill have you know" TO THEIR SENTENCE? Also, im guessing he has a fetish for spikes and obstacles everywhere, because COOL EDGE IS HIS FAVOURITE STAGE IN THE GAME *facepalm*

I then gave him videos by well respected sonic youtubers who arent complete toxic asses who complain about everything post generations

But even then, he says the guy playing the game is playing like a noob and that he sucks at it too, what kind of drugs is this "sonic fan" on?

12323426900G:No thanks.

thats right, he straight up says no, thats how bigoted this retard is

I then politely try to end the conversation by saying not all games are perfect, but even then, he continues the argument

Me:what, because you like denying that the game isnt the perfect sonic game, get over it, no game is perfect, not even sonic 06 and SA1 are perfect, look at how bad the level design is in EPGs video, you know it has bad qualities, you just deny things and say "i suck at it", you know what that reminds me of? the sonic 3 and knuckles fanboys that said the same thing to me, i feel like im being reasonable here by mentioning these videos, have a good one and remember, not all games are perfect

12323426900G:Okay. I watched the video, and that's what any noob would do. Literally looks like he's playing it for the first time. That's completely normal, what, do you play Nick Jr. Games? And some of those traps, he looks like he's hitting them on purpose, or just not thinking.

Hes not HITTING THEM ON PURPOSE, ITS BECAUSE THE SPIKE TRAPS ARE MINDLESSLY PLACED EVERYWHERE AND CALLED A "MISSION", seriously, even cobanermani456 knows the game has problems and he is one of the few people who completed the game

I then say one more thing before goffard the tyrant locks ANOTHER ONE of my posts

Me:youre an obvious bigot, please leave if youre going to be like "oh he just sucks at it", this makes NO SENSE since EPG has played many different sonics and unleashed is one of the only ones where he just couldnt do it, so stop calling me and him a noob, when its obviously the games fault, youre too much of a fanboy to think otherwise

So that clears up the first part of this situation, now for the second part, on Mario2900s video "Sonic Unleashed and the AWFUL Sonic Fanbase" where some dumbass Attack on Titan fan tells me to kill myself and end my life

Me (expressing myself in the comments section, just like everyone else):This game is absolutely horrible, the day stages are garbage and trial and error with the worst homing attack ever, and the entire game is a tedious collectathon, and the night stages have godawful physics, garbage button mashing, and finally, the fact that I RAGEQUIT, a game for little kids shouldn't be this tedious and godawful

Popokaka XD:Lmao have you even played the game before… Ur complaining about a problem that doesn’t even exist… I wonder how you brainless kids come up with these creative yet stupid ideas. The really problem here is you and the fact that ur mom didn’t leave you when ur dad did.

Thats right, he INSTANTLY says i havent even played the game at all and that im complaining about a problem that isnt there (that seems to be a recurring excuse with unleashed fanboys), he also calls me a brainless kid and says that im the problem and the fact that my dad left, which he never did, he is just instantly throwing retarded toxic reddit user insults at me

Me:excuse me? shut up you dumbass who instantly starts insulting me, and for what? because this little video hurt your feewings, so get lost

Popokaka XD:your the type of guy who complain to his mommy when a games too hard like sh*t up (yes, he told me to sh*t up instead of shut up, at least learn how to spell correctly) fam 😂😂😂😂. I bet you haven’t even played sonic unleashed before and I also bet you found Sonic Forces too hard… Your just a joke, a sad meme and your moms life was a failed love story

Yes, he actually says ive never played sonic unleashed before even though i was TALKING ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE and that i probably found forces too hard, well yes, thats because it has the SAME PROBLEM unleashed has at stage 16 onwards, he also calls me a joke and a sad meme and that my moms life is a failed love story, is he really that much of a pile of trash person that he says im a sad meme? honestly, this guy needs to get a life

SIN:You sound more like you're hating on this game, JUST CAUSE you suck at it

Honestly, i sometimes question if the fanbase even HAS kids in it and its just full of sad 30 year olds who think they are superior to everyone, these idiots sound EXACTLY like sonic 3 and knuckles classic sonic purists who think they are SO COOL because they can SOMEHOW get 14 EMERALDS through 14 tedious zones which suck the living hell out of you

Me:shut up with the "you just suck at it" garbage, there is constant obstacles literally NO ONE, not even skilled players, can possibly dodge, 06 may have been glitchy, but it didnt have trial and error and tedious werehog sections

SIN:Who... Cares

OMG WHO CARES DUMB LOSER, YOU DONT LIKE A SUPER TRENDY POPULAR GAME, OMG WHAT A LOSER

Popokaka XD: the thing that you really should rage quit at is life go swan dive off of your school building just like what your mom tried to do

And to end things, he says i should RAGEQUIT AT LIFE because i dont like his beloved sonic unleashed, and that i should swan dive off of my school building "just like what my mom tried to do" honestly, i think its no surprise why he likes toxic edgy anime like attack on titan, he is toxic and edgy! also my mom never tried to commit suicide

So thats part 2 of the rant, part 3 is about sonic colours ultimate, and how people overreact and say it sucks, just so they can hate ANOTHER post generations game EVEN IF it means hating on a game they previously liked

So, it all started when TWIP, a sonic tuber i subbed to, he makes pretty good content and like me, constantly gets into controversy just because of opinions, he got dislike bombed for not liking sonic forces soundtrack, just like how i got dislike bombed because xenia is a godawful emulator that cant even run the games, i guess because i said it sucked, they instantly thought of Gligar13Vids and thought i was some troll of some kind, there was also my Top 10 Worst Sonic Characters list, and surprise, i got flamed for an opinion AGAIN, i probably wont be coming back to the wiki with another alt for a very long time, especially when goffard the tyrant and luma dash are dictating everybody to not have fun, did i mention the site allows you to say p*ss but not ass, apparently ass is a swear word, but p*ss isnt! that makes no sense, that should be the other way around, but no, they get a slap on the wrist for swearing, there was this edgy-ass roblox kid who was SWEARING HIS HEAD OFF at some troll vandalizing the pages and cursed him off and threw pathetic insults at him, but he gets a little slap on the wrist, while i get BLOCKED ACROSS THE FANDOM NETWORK FOREVER just for saying the word ass, and dont say i did "personal attacks" to anyone, because i didnt, its called having an argument, NOT ATTACKING PEOPLE

Top 10 WORST Sonic Characters List (Heads up, get ready to see the argument of the century):https://sonic.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000129435/r/4400000000000360704

So basically, he made this video, about sonic colours ultimate, he got a review copy, and just like everyone else, he made a dumbass decision and got the PS4 version, the literal most unstable version along with the switch version, he then says its completely terrible and hates it, the worst part is that i believed him! even though he was playing a VERY early alpha build of the game! absolutely shameless, i cant believe TWIP would stoop that low to pretend colours ultimate sucks just for some views

Even worse, he makes a video nitpicking about all the little stuff, here are ACTUAL COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE GAME

"The "Bloom" is too bright" what the hell is bloom? how dare they make the game nicer to look at, lets make it have no lighting at all like SA1 on the dreamcast!

"The game could give people seizures" what? just because the screen glitches because i dont know, you were GLITCH HUNTING AND SWITCHED LEVELS TOO FAST, OF COURSE ITS GOING TO DO THAT, also, this only appears in the switch version

"Skybox is blurry" this only appears in the switch version, AND i can only see a "blurry skybox" in planet wisp, also, who the hell cares about a skybox?

"See through textures arent see through" ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE 0/10

"Stutters at the beginning" once again, this is only the switch version

"They left the developer kit in the pc version" THATS A GOOD THING!

"Still plays when rival rush is finished" This only happens for LESS THAN A SECOND, also, sonic 06s pause menu is like this when you quit the game as well, it doesnt really matter since many other sonic games do this

"Sonics image is a lazy image of the 30th anniversary render" OH NO! HOW DARE THEY REUSE IMAGES THAT FIT WITH THE GAME!

"Wisp music doesnt play" to be honest, the wisp music is unneeded anyway

"Unacceptable 30 minute credits" there is such thing as SKIPPING THEM?

"Cutscenes arent in 4K" WHO CARES ABOUT CUTSCENES BEING REMASTERED OR NOT?

"Rail grinding glitch" this was present in the PREVIOUS VERSION

"Remixes have TERRIBLE midi" its called different instruments, not midi, everything ISNT MIDI, JUST BECAUSE FORCES USED IT, DOESNT MEAN COLOURS ULTIMATE IS

"Annoying homing attack sound" 🤦‍♂️

Honestly, all these complaints are SO SMALL, that the fact that people are saying BOTH this and SADX suck is just dumb, both literally improve in any way, but now their favourite youtubers had a temper tantrum about the games "problems" just to hate on EVEN MORE "Meta Era" games, the meta era name is so dumb, whats so 4th wall breaking about any game from that era? even worse, some people said this is WORSE THAN 06

Here are a few idiotic comments in the comments section of TWIPs video, people complain about how "nothing is fixed" NOTHING NEEDED TO BE FIXED! THE "FANS" QUOTE ON QUOTE, ARE FORCING SEGA TO LISTEN TO THEM AND FORCE UNNEEDED PATCHES OUT, its obvious they are doing these fake patches to annoy the ungrateful fanbase, props to sega, they deserve a rest after frontiers comes out

Me:Its the switch version, of course it has bugs and glitches like that, also, most of them are graphical ones

ANGRY Diddy Kong:Most of these problems are present on other versions.

It doesnt change the fact that all of these problems are so little they dont need to be fixed! the only thing they have to fix is the save data corruption, also, the only people that got their data corrupted are the dumbasses collecting everything and 100 percenting it, who cares about 100 percenting games? not only that, but thats obviously going to overclock the save file with the amount of data, especially with the infinite gold medals exploit, not only that, but these retards are literally acting like this game is seperate to the original, saying that they are "never playing this trash again", did they EVER play the wii version? AT ALL?

MrGamer:Oh thank you for covering the so called patch updates for this version of the game. I was hoping for all the patches it can get since I recently picked this game up for my nephew. Not that he would know, but freaking gotta make sure such failures don’t boggled down one’s experience for joy. Let alone serves harm geez.

Like graphical glitches and seizure glitches that have BEEN FIXED is going to ruin the players experience, talk about overprotective uncle

Super60249:At this point, it's a given that the devs at Blind Squirrel are either lazy or incompetent if A: The game released in the state it was in at all and B: Nothing at all got fixed after multiple patches.

People act like this is 06 quality and that its absolute garbage and that its ruined sonics reputation again, NO IT HASNT! ITS GOTTEN THE BEST RATINGS SINCE SONIC RACING TRANSFORMED! but no, the user reviews are full of retard 7 year olds complaining about a singular rail grinding glitch! thank god the critics are finally saying sonic games are good again, because now the casuals will actually WANT to buy a sonic game, it sucks that the toxic sonic twitter community was trying to ruin that success

Knuckles Channel 3 and Knuckles (definately the worst username so far, that joke isnt even funny, it just reminds people that sonic 3 and knuckles must be shoved down peoples throat at all times):Oh... an update. Cool. I'm still not booting it up on my Switch again.

Thats right, graphical glitches apparently ruined his gameplay SO MUCH that he never wants to play colours again, talk about melodramatic

Me:OH NO! TINY GRAPHICAL GLITCHES!!!!! IVE WASTED MY MONEY IM NOT BOOTING IT UP EVER AGAIN, ABSOLUTELY UNPLAYABLE!!!!

AkameGaKillFan777:Who hurt you?

Neo Geo (has shadow profile pic and username is an edgy console filled with fighting games):He's apart of the defense squad that always white knights for anything Sonic related even if it's bad

So, everything 2011 onwards sucks, i bet he thinks everything 2001 onwards sucks like cybertard, he sure sounds like a sonic retro user, especially when he calls me a white knight and "part of the defense squad" also, gotta love how he says sonic colours ultimate is bad and acts like sonic colours as a whole sucks, THEY ARE NOT SEPERATE GAMES! THEY ARE THE SAME THING!

Blue-Eyed Vibe Checker:@Neo Geo Not sonic related, a Switch fan, they're much worse. Watch them defend the subpar performance on Switch despite the least impressive visuals after all the cutbacks. (For the record, 30fps is perfectly fine, but less than that in constant frame drops is not)

Get ready for the most dumbass excuse ever!

Neo Geo:It's 2021, 30 fps isn't really acceptable tbh. It just makes your eyes hurt like sh*t just by looking at the performance.

He literally JUST SAID 30FPS "isnt acceptable" and that it makes peoples eyes hurt, that is the worst excuse for a game being "bad" i have ever heard

Star Frost:Oh you poor summer child

How dare i defend a game that doesnt have problems with it!

Me:really, well according to all of you toxic fake fans, EVERY SINGLE sonic game we have had since, how many years, 10 YEARS, nope, they all suck because the internet told us to, grow the hell up

"Neo Geo" then forces the mainstream opinions that every sonic fan must follow up my nose and force feeds it up there

Neo Geo:Lol, any game after Gens was ok at best and awful at worst. Lost World was ok, had trash story, all the Sonic Boom games sucked and forces was trash. TSR and Mania are the only good games that came out and they're not even mainline games, sorry to break it to you, kiddo but; the meta era was sh*t for the most part and I didn't even grew up in the "dark" age era. But whatever, just keep on white knighting like a b*tch, because you have no life whatsoever, fanboy.

Wow, how retarded can you get? first you start force feeding the generic trendy opinions at me, force the "meta era" words at me, denies about anything about the dark age because he "didnt even grew up", how sad, i think he has no life, he cant even do grammar correctly, how am i a lifeless fanboy, i dont follow the same exact opinions everyone is FORCED to follow, but no, im a "white knight" is that supposed to be a racial insult at me, also, he called me the b word even though im not even female, yet he says i have no life, i think thats the other way round my friend

Me:imagine calling me the b word, im male, and are you seriously saying "white knighting" not only youre butthurt and complain about anything 2011 onwards, but youre a constantly swearing racist, im not replying any further, and did you SERIOUSLY say TSR was better than forces?

Okay, that finally ends ANOTHER compilation of the retard sonic fanbase, hopefully stuff like this wont happen because to be honest, im tired of documenting stuff like this AGAIN AND AGAIN, its taking a toll on me

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